Customer service beyond any reproach. This is a digital day/night scope. With all the gun control in northern Illinois how the hell can they screw all of us like this! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History. Lower Half, A2 Stock Just From $410. And yes, they are actually closer to Iowa than to Chicago. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Black Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Brake Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751B; Rock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Flat Dark Earth (FDE) Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Br Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751T; Kahr moved out of NY. The response was to Mark about the others being vastly superior, not your comment. I have family that works in the town. What flavor is it, and how much do you want? And theyre telling their friends. Neither excuse is a proper justification. Done. Then beg for forgiveness. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). Your Price: $744.13. If you want to scope your BM 59, there is a company that makes a direct over the bore scope kit for Garands that fits the BM59. I wont name them, but the sales people at certain companies worked hard (and maybe even fudged some dates on paperwork) to make sure that I got my magazines before the deadline in the law hit. Thank God we have a Rural King now here local. Join up with other interest groups if common goals can be found. No more. As I said on Thursday, when it comes to RRA I was, and still am, unsure if they had any foreknowledge of what was about to occur. Most dont buy a gun thinking about selling it down the road, bit it happens. 84283412342. Whats more, Larson seems genuinely appalled by what happened. The Springfield name is going to carry an odor, no matter how good a particular firearm might be. You would answer your own question if you noticed my opening remark: Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. Its real easy for you people to bash a company when you dont own shit. Anyway, at least for now, I will bide my time and see if Springfield repents and takes positive actions to atone for their irrational IL acts. Except they are both under different ownership today. County fairs? Good luck! No Springfield guns for me. I am still trying to figure out how best to get rid of my XD-40 and assist in flooding the market with used XD pistols. they should have fought not laid over. Well, now. Springfield cleaning to get the taint out of there. F$&@ Ruger too! I have a Rock River PDS carbine. Springfield Armory today is a strong supporter of everything 2A. The Illinois Manufacturers Association will continue to fight and protect not only manufacturers, but dealers and the gun owner as well.. Bill Ruger retired from the company in 2000 and died in 2002. If you know youre going to lose 50% off sticker driving something new off the lot, odds are you keep looking. It will make my future purchases easier because two manufacturers are automatically removed from my search and consideration. Thankfully, many of the downstate Dems are staunchly pro-gun. There never was a Henry fi rearms company (until 2002). No wonder were in trouble, POTG are clueless. Expect deep, deep discounts on that warehouse full of XD-Es and Saints they were hoping to sell this summer. Seems like a stand up guy to me. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the We are not obligated to honor a price that is in print or an error. I have been casually looking at getting a 1911. I think a hit to Springfield sales should get them leaning on the IFMA (who should be facing a hit to subscribers) enough for the IFMA to not fold in the future. The company SHOULD be boycotted even if they shuffle management. They are good weapons but I Cant help but feel betrayed when I look at them now. And gun control wins, like this keep the gravy train flowing so they can continue to draw a paycheck and keep on going. Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. This attention to accuracy is especially evident in Rock Rivers new model, the Advanced Tactical Hunter V2 (ATH V2). Apples and suspension bridges here. The plant where that rifle is made revitalized the area n which it is made. These lobbyists arent in business to protect gun owners or the Second Amendment. He might want to eject before the SS Springfield capsizes. That is sooo repetitious! Springfield is DEAD to me. Do they somehow know the licensing scheme is going to be corrupt or extremely expensive? I want to see how they fix the mess they created with the people who liked their product. If anyone from SAs Corporate Communications department happens upon this post, please get this in front of Dennis Reese and let him know that his actions are shameful, and that he has just traded his honor for a paycheck. I just bought a DDM4V11 in January at an unheard of, low price of $1369. Anytown on I80 feels like the Chicago area to the downstaters. Well also work on the NRA to start taking a firmer stance against rogue anti-2A manufacturers, no matter how much advertising space they buy. You can not name another firearms manufacture today that has done more than Ruger to support the NRA, the 2A and firearms owners. Make it a campaign issue NOW. Major mistake, Springfield. You see once you jump in bed with the marketing types and throw millions at image you quickly discover that your rudder fell off long ago and now youre not sure what you stand forif anything. First, they co-opt the name of a famous military armory to start a business with absolutely no ties to the original Springfield. Yes, very disappointed. Sellouts. Web50%. All evidence to the contrary? They have a good ongoing business, why jeopardize it? chamber also differ from the 5.56 mm NATO chamber All of these rifles are vastly superior to Ruger. Somehow, I get the idea the House will be a cakewalk for any anti-gun bill compared to the Senate, which this one has already passed. I hope that it will bankrupt them, for it appears to be the only way these gun companies will learned to to alienate their comsumers. Were pulling out of IFMA and regret that this happened. Moved my medical business AND brought my family. Local politicians always give tax incentives to move. Well do our part in other states to support you. After the event I hadnt seen a shipping notification. Lots of work. Here I was just falling in love with my SA 1911 Loaded. WebRock River Arms AR15 Uppers for Sale at Joe Bob Outfitters! The Ruger is berween $6-700. I fail to see how giving the box stores a leg up on the gun shops helps Rock River or Springfield Arms in any way. All things considered, a Henry Big Boy in .44mag is more likely to see the inside of my safe than a M1A1. Most importantly, support our brothers in arms in Illinois. Have you not been following this story? Might see if you can find one to test out. Go and ask them and Youtube/Periscope their responses. So I have to ask. Huh? Another dealer told me he wished Springfield well. IF WE LOSE RRA BECAUSE OF THIS HYSTERICAL REACTION, thats a blow to liberty. At least the company would survive, even if the move was costly. Are they doing town halls? theyre NOT trapped in Illinois,they can relocate,same as other gun companies have done. Damn This is turning into that mob with the torches looking for Frankenstein. They mustve been channeling Bill Ruger. Very close to where I grew up. I look at their site and the parts were available from the same warehouses at a higher price. Of course lobbyists have the highest ethical standards, so thats just crazy talk. All have been accurate and reliable. In the world of .308 Win. Of course there will be others that benefit as well. Yes, that is the cloud which is usually much larger than the silver lining. Even being on this site makes you a hypocrite because TTAG regularly advertised for Glock, S&W and Springfield. As has been said by numerous others, that Springer I had thought about buying just got thrown under the bus. That was just a small part of the problem. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. The original company lives on today under the name Winche ster. But I struggle with the NEVER AGAIN WILL I EVER SUPPORT THIS COMPANY. Magpul moved to WY. They spent weeks trying to gin up interest in the XD-E introduction with their mysterious ads, and it was all for nothing. Never give one inch or miles will be lost. Only Ruger has in the past few years regularly donated millions to the NRA. Helps to have the older experience but not insurmountable. Rugers stated public position was screw every other gun manufacturer and screw the American gun owners, as long as Ruger makes it and we want government contracts! Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. Send a signal to IL Senators and the Governor that supporting the bill is politically a trainwreck. Includes larger .1555 MSRP: $111.99 $75.81. The idea being that this bill is so toxic that Senators passing it or the Governor signing it will be drawn into a wide-ranging financial and criminal probe. Henry? I will now buy another LAR-8 in case you idiots force RRA out of business. So many good options, why buy from jackasses. There is NOTHING I need from a company that is obviously manipulating the system for themselves. Are you aware it was Bill Ruger who testified before Congress that nobody needs more than 10 rounds? Ruger, S&W, Springfield, Rock River, Ive seen people complain about Glock and Colt, Hex Mag, and about a dozen more. So how is screwing your customer base over a sound business strategy? Had a Springfield 1911 that I sold late last year to fund another purchase and was thinking of replacing it with a TRP at some point guess this gives me all the excuses I needed to spend a few hundred more for a Dan Wesson or an STI. Regardless of who did what,the after-effects of this deal and a legislative loss will be felt far beyond Illinois for some time to come. The company is based in Genesco Illinois, near Chicago. Sadly, some of the collar county Repubs arent so much. So, youre not buying a bunch of Springfields new pistols? I asked one. Thankfully, we still have two more chances to stop this travesty of a bill. Having this blow up the day before a brand-new product launch at the NRA convention is basically the exact opposite of fortuitous timings for Springfield. Frankly, Im wondering how Im going to sell my existing inventory.. Id like to see Springfield make a correction here but it might be too late for that. How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? Never sold out to foreign companies or parts sources or manufacturing or skimped on quality control. Please, spend your money where you want. Springfield could have fought thisor vocally opposed it on its way to potential passage. And whats worse, if it passes, Bloomberg will attempt to duplicate this legislation in all 50 states. I was just about to order another springfield xdm .45. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. You shouldve made that decision because it is a piece of garbage, not because of this hysterical article. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. No guilt trip on my hip. Meaning they are NOT a legal lobbyist. They hate this stuff because opponents can use it. As for furniture, the BT 9 R9 Competition comes with a Hogue overmolded pistol grip and a four-position adjustable Rock River Arms buttstock. Didnt Smith and Wesson do the same thing back in the Clinton era, and it nearly bankrupted them, let alone took them years to reclaim the trust of the gun community. The company makes a wide variety of weapons, including AR-15 and M16 rifles, as well as pistols, shotguns, and bolt-action rifles. Or cameras? Weve got three very active groups on the ground in Illinois promoting GOTV campaigns and spreading the word. In fact, I own a Springfield M1A Scout Squad that they gave me free of charge after I encountered a series of malfunctions with an old SAR8. What if I want to get some real nice (read expensive) gun and in order to spare my familys budget I decide to sell part of my gun collection? You write as though weve been asleep. For those who missed it, we broke the story late Thursday evening. If you dont like their price dont buy. The law doesnt get past the senate without Springfields cooperation. (Im a 30 yr Vet). Your arguments are supercilious and embarrassingly logic free. Companies move all the time. I have to say this really makes me mad. Easy there tough guy. I wanted one with the threaded barrel and suppressor sights. Fuck Ruger as well. Had it in the cart at buds ready to buy tomorrow and now it definitely is not going to happen. One of the few cases of sincere contrition. About three years ago, RRAs Elite Operator hit the market sporting features designed specifically for professionals. No sane company would move in to Illinois unless it was to curry political favor in Chicago as Boeing moving their HQ (no production) did. Why does anyone ever even try to work with them? Heres a basic synopsis of the original company; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Repeating_Arms_Company#Early_history. Ruger today is a strong supporter of everything 2A. Hes totally grasping at straws on that point in his video. CTD does our best to price our products at market value. Both are were on their way to selling over a quarter million of Springfield product this year. Like a shrewd negotiator, Harmonhappily added a manufacturer and big box retailer carve-out to the bill so he couldcobble together the last few votes he needed to get it through the Senate. The lobbyist for the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), Jay Keller,traded that groups opposition to the bill in exchange for a carve-out, removing PrairieState firearms manufacturers from the licensing requirements. I know people who continue to not buy Ruger even after his kids made up for the old mans traitorous ways. Springfield, on the other hand, has gone silent. Enjoy 45% Off Rock River Arms Goods At Walmart. Free Shipping On Most Rifles, Upper Halves And Complete Lower Halves. Fuck them for gouging desperate buyers. Illinoying is pushing to get shut down. Nothing Springfield will ever be in my collection now. Especially ones outside Chiraq. And their ammo prices were astronomical. Real easy for you people to bash a company when you dont own shit damn this turning! 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