Aggressive_Elk_1754 3 mo. Both have stated that they dont believe men are victims of abusive women, that the man always has the power in the relationship and therefore its their own fault if they are harmed by their victim. Both have also said that even if Amber is lying, anyone who supports Depp is a misogynist. Also I think he cut his own finger but you didnt ask that. And regardless of what Heard did or didnt suffer at the hands of Depp, isnt the relentless memeing of her a form of violence in itself? She embellished and dramatized for support, love, and attention. If he hit her and it left a bruise why does it matter how big the bruise was? I believe her," tweeted domestic abuse researcher Dr. Emma Katz. Another posted a photo of Depp looking down while he was in court, surmising that the actor's lack of eye contact was something that made his fans proud. Amber Heard and Johnny Depp are back in court in Fairfax County, Virginia. Both things can be true at the same time. May 4, 2022 at 1:10 PM. a place for discussion surrounding the current civil trial between johnny depp and amber heard, moderated in an unbiased manner. Sometimes it's important to wear the same thing twice". I haven't really followed it much, but tend to believe him. Alicia Lutes / Twitter / Twitter. The mother of his children, Winona Ryder, Kate Moss ect.. All concluded he was not an abusive man. Please select a reason for escalating this post to the WTE moderators: Connect with our community members by starting a discussion. Unable to find it he searches ambers body. & this isn't me being a fangirl as I have 0 interest in both but I've followed the trial closely and Amber Heard is straight up not traumatised even . I didn't think anyone would believe me. Women who support Amber Heard in her trial against Johnny Depp say they have received online hate. Amber claiming she gave her lawyers the pictures and that the lawyers are hiding them does not make any sense.imo she got boxed in and the only way she could think of to save herself is blame her lawyers. After all, its hard to keep the small stuff straight when youre telling lots of big lies. Apparently, a guy hitting his wife is super hard to believe. Nevertheless, that hasnt stopped fans from pointing fingers at Amber Heard for the end of Jason Momoas marriage. Even die hard JD fans should give a minute to think about this one. But shouldnt we have just believed her in the first place. In an emergency, call 000. If it were him on those recordings saying I didnt punch you I slapped you. He was telling us things you could see he wasnt very happy to be talking about - but he was talking about it. Dont ask Amber Heard to be a perfect victim. Clearly, the point is to establish Heard as a liar. I dont know if that was a strategy from her attorneys, but it came across as disingenuous, rather than just having a conversation and telling us her testimony. Judges fail to back Adams' drive to curb big crime with cr Biden's WHO pandemic treaty would kill Americans in the name of 'equity', 'Tis the month Don 'GodBlessUs' Lemon and many other celebs were born, JK Rowling showing outstanding moral courage as she stands up to vile woke mob, 11-year-old reads aloud from 'pornographic' book he checked out from library at school board meeting, Family raises 250-pound 'dog' for 2 years then realizes it's a bear, Influencer refuses to switch business class seats so family can sit together, Prince Harry, Meghan Markle confirm they were asked to 'vacate' Frogmore Cottage. PH: (01) 6489130, Lo-Call 1890 208 080 or email: info@presscouncil.ie. Tangentially, The idea that depp would only bring forth a suit he knew he could win is directly contradicted by the fact that he did this exact think in the uk and lost. Experts say because many people do not view Heard as a "perfect victim," they refuse to believe she may be a victim at all. Go on social media, and the anti-Heard sentiment is palpable. Lawrence said Heards first day of testimony sounded rehearsed. Also, that Depp should consider himself lucky to be able to pull someone like her, and he only managed that because of his money and fame. she would do drugs and surround him with people would encouraged him to do drugs. Also, not specific to this case but people abuse other people all the time, very very badly, and get away with it! She had like mini marks and she even stated in the testimony that some were a few days after etc where bruising would increase or worsen if you were PUNCHED by a MAN. I think in most of her testimony she stuttered through a lot of things, she said. services and As a society, its important that we believe women. Maybe because the Internet has decided that Depp has already won this trial. (Yet these two are older than Depp, make Santa Claus look buff, and are greasy, sweaty, sickly-looking alcoholics. There are texts where she asked him if he wants to join her drink and smoke marijuana. So that commenced in a lot of pettiness. But his lawyers say the article contains defamation by implication because it clearly refers to allegations of domestic abuse made by Heard when she filed for divorce in 2016. Journal Media does not control and is not responsible "Him looking down most of the time was concerning. I dont want to think about what this is saying to victims of abuse who are considering coming forward. Heard is being systematically jeered at and ridiculed like a medieval criminal in the stocks as she catalogs historic abuse, as she alleges rape. Ad Choices. I struggle to find the words to describe how painful this is, she said, PEOPLE reports. Cooper Lawrence didnt mince her words when assessing Heards first morning of testimony. I know a couple people who are on amber's side because they think Johnny Depp is getting better treatment and that people believe him simply because he's Jonny Depp. From the many audios, we can assume he did not communicate those boundaries in an effective way, or that amber understood and accepted them. Shes focusing on all of it. 'Amber Heard has testified in the dramatic defamation trial between her ex-husband Johnny Depp. Though Ive felt myself veering toward it, I can no longer both sides this. including someone who is wearing the rings Johnny wears they would cause marks & both have testified he wore them all the time, except the images of her face and bruises do not measure up one bit to being repeatedly hit and choked by a man larger than her. Genuinely dont think he was innocent but also feel based in the evidence that he was being reactive. the crying? On the other hand, he is larger than life. Still would be considered SA though. "I felt safe talking to my mom because I knew she understood those dynamics and she wouldn't judge me for staying with him, for loving him even though this was happening to me," Heard said. What really grinds my gears is that Amber is making a mockery out of domestic violence and will be used to discredit victims. I think theyre both deranged liars. I also believe that the bruise in her arm was from Johnny. Think in on of the recordings she tells him that even he told people she was hitting him, who would believe him. A redden spot on the cheek doesn't count towards damage nor does a bruise on the arm. On May 4, Twitter user @christinapykles . Pennington describes a scene where Johnny walks by, says "get your hands off my woman" and then leaves. I think they both abused each other, and there are truth and lies from each of them. Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). Okay, I was just answering the question you asked. . There is also need by certain groups to have this one very public case of man being a victim of DV so they can trash the MeToo movement. Sounds better than she did it because lots of drugs , yeah being wasted doesnt help but I am hoping if she was wasted then it was at least unintentional. It's really hard to know what is authentic and what is an act. We strive to provide you with a high quality community experience. Then hes like, oh my house cleaner sent me the picture so I mean..beyond reprehensible behavior by her and absolutely disgusting and disturbed. If you or someone you know is impacted by sexual assault, domestic or family violence, call 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 or visit 1800RESPECT.org.au. The memes have been ferocious, sometimes consisting of a spot-the-difference comparison with domestic-abuse victims; at other times, televised courtroom footage has been appropriated to openly mock her appearance. Its Finally Dawning On Me That I Might Be Single Forever, The Best True-Crime Podcasts to Listen to Now, These Celebrities Who Married Normal People Will Surprise You, Listen to The Run-Through with Vogue, a new weekly podcast featuring the most exciting stories and hot takes from the worlds of culture, politics, sports andof coursefashion. Actor Amber Heard is facing her former husband Johnny Depp in a defamation trial in the US. I also believe his version of the story of the headbutt (she was hitting him, he grabbed her flailing arms and accidentally head butted her) although, I believe amber in that he probably head butted her a lot harder than he claims, which did leave bruises. She didnt have to go to the courthouse (not legally required in fact victims are encouraged not to physically appear), she didnt need to get the TRO (she knew Johnny would be out of the country for months), she didnt need to get paparazzi photos (admitted basically that she did alert tmz) and didnt need to publish the op-Ed. And it is not about what you or I think or even JDs tiktok propaganda machine thinks, but rather what has been presented in the court and verified through authentication of the texts, emails, witness testimonies, expert witness testimonies, etc. So he testified that after he severed a finger to the bone (she says he did it, he says she did it) and with blood from the severed finger he wrote messages on walls, mirrors and lampshades. Her lawyers are (as of now) far better at painting a picture of her trauma. Nazir's personal assessment was echoed in a wave of comments shared by fans of The Pirates of the Caribbean star Depp. Oh yeah, tons of people are defending her. Johnny Depp accused of sexual violence against Amber Heard in bombshell new evidence, Never know: Jadas revealing Instagram post after Will Smith slap, Ed Sheeran announces wifes shock diagnosis, Harry and Meghan respond to cruel eviction from King Charles, Fans go wild for tiny detail in latest Kate appearance: Wow, Bindi and Robert Irwin share hilarious blooper reel from Australia Zoo, King Charles evicts Harry & Meghan from Frogmore Cottage, Heath Ledgers daughter Matilda, 17, is his spitting image in rare sighting, Fans react after Justin Bieber cancels Australian leg of Justice world tour. Its time to draw a line. Still would be considered SA though. I suppose my real question is, are they saying she did it intentionally? you cannot possibly say this about everyone who supports Johnny Depp bc thats just stupid. one of the biggest facts imo is that there are no photos that show any damage to amber. Johnny Depp and Amber Heard's ongoing trial is now concluding its fourth week. When Heard . New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. And Ive been angry before but thats not angry thats insanity. Photo: ELIZABETH FRANTZ/POOL/AFP via Getty Images Last week, Amber Heard took the stand in her ongoing defamation trial. The British courts believed Depp beat his ex-wife. He said the op-ed was devastating to Mr Depp, suggesting that Disney wouldnt put him in the sixth Pirates film under this cloud. The two were. Also it puts the onus unfairly on the survivor. Social media: Before Amber Heard took the stand, Johnny Depp had already won While watching the trial, various individuals took to social media to report that Amber's deposition felt and sounded oddly familiar. At this point i wonder if her name is even amber, Shes probably gonna dye her hair brown and call herself Johnny soon with all that copying of outfits . ''It's really hard to know what is authentic and what is an act. You listen to your wife. All things that are equally horrible and disturbing. By continuing to browse, you agree to the use of cookies. does not make logical sense. I havent watched the whole entire thing though. How about yall take that energy to call for her to get help and bring awareness to trauma and mental disorders instead!! All the while the abuser is often given the benefit of the doubt. Four men and three women sit on Depps jury. He is using such vile language and accusations against her in this very message just so he can protect her in the last paragraph of the same message. And he was my favorite actor since my childhood. Completely believable. Johnny Depp engaged in abusive behaviours (name calling, talking about killing himself, etc) due to the abuse against him but I do not believe he is an abuser or Amber Heard is a victim of abuse. Join thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their replies, Copyright The Associated Press All rights Reserved 2022. Some weeks the internet is buoyant, all of us kept afloat by daft dresses and Kardashian weddings and Marvel actors saying theyve never been in the same room. All symptoms of her mental health disorders. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. When I go into the courtroom . I want to believe that some of us are offline and mildly compassionate or compassionate in a way that doesnt get tweeted aboutthat youre all out there being nice to each other and Im reporting on a tiny cluster of internet users with pitchforks. I think its also a tough situation because abusers that are good manipulators will have everyone saying no, not them which can be even harder on the victim. Registered office: 3rd floor, Latin Hall, Golden Lane, Dublin 8. This is imo spot on and exactly what I believe. Both of these guys have said at one point or another that Depp deserved it, that theyve always hated his movies, and that they wouldnt care if she cut their own fingers off because shes hot. I never heard any complaints. Shes going to have to be extemporaneous [done without preparation], and that is going to be hard for her.. He said the pinnacle of sensitivity against this can be found in family-friendly companies like Disney. For example: amber has expressed in many interviews that she didnt want to be seen ONLY as a sex symbol. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. supports the work of the Press Council of Ireland and the Office of the Press Thats not to say shes not awful, but I believe her story. I dont want to despair for humanity. I think he has way more solid evidence of abuse from amber heard than she has to use against him. They bring gifts hell never open. I believe her side and I believe some of his side. Amber has been proven many times to be the instigator.. Its a sad truism that no one is as hard on women as other women. This story has been shared 103,553 times. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. Exes Johnny Depp and Amber Heard have had a tumultuous relationship that was examined thoroughly during their widely viewed defamation trial. Mandel was also later informed that Depp had violently kicked Heard during an incident that took place in or around 2014. 483623. ", "Johnny Depp is so cowardly (we already knew it) that he doesn't even dare to look Amber Heard in the eye and tries to escape this by smiling with his lawyer, drawing," wrote another. Go figure.). Where to begin with the online cesspit that is Depp v. Heard? He said the column was geared to Hollywood who got the message loud and clear. Johnny Depp 's defamation lawsuit against Amber Heard continues this week in Fairfax County, Va., shining a light on their tumultuous relationship while igniting discussions and debate about. One is a cluster B nutcase who has been physically abusive to her partners and is the perpetual victim. hdsejs123. Amber struggles with mental health issues and Johnny with substance abuse. I call B S. I cannot imagine someone that was so "concerned" about his sobriety, self report to the "fake nurse report* as drinking 3 to 4 glasses of red wine per day. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Instead, amber decided to play victim. Eastern Eye columnist Asjad Nazir shared side-by-side shots of Heard and Depp in court to illustrate his suggestion that Depp's behavior was the result of past abuse. As a young woman alleging domestic violence against one of the world's most famous actors, Johnny Depp, she had no choice. #JustSaying. imagine a scenario: theyre in a fight, amber steals and hides his coke out of spite. Those who know me can tell you about the passion that I have not just for my job and the company that I work for but . 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